Sea View 5

This page lists provides instructions on correcting the missing control signal at Serenity Beach.
Main Sea View 5 Page

This "fix" requires placing a specific signal at a specific location.

Even if you are not familiar with the MSTS Route Editor, you can likely complete this procedure. Read through it completely before starting. If in doubt, go ahead and backup your SeaView5 folder (the entire route) to another location on your hard drive by Copy and Paste.

PLEASE NOTE that some screen shots and windows may look different on your system than pictured, but the functionality is the same.

Any questions or troubles or comments, write me.


  1. Open the Route Editor using the Editors & Tools link on your Desktop or Start Menu.
  2. Select the "Sea View 5" route from the combo box and click OK.
  3. Go to this location:
    Latitude: 31.3689994812012
    Longitude: -81.7411193847656

    You can enter (or Copy/Paste!) these values on the Camera palette window. Select Camera from the Window menu if it's not visible.
    Then, click the Jump button. You should appear here:

    Figure 1
    Fig. 1: This is the switch that, when thrown, will freeze MSTS. Facing North (bearing 0).
  4. Use the arrow keys to move the camera to the end of the siding. You can pan the camera around by right-clicking and dragging the viewport.
    You should then get here, approximately:

    Figure 2
    Fig. 2: End of the problem track. Facing North.

    The blue pole marks the "End Node" in the track database for this track.
  5. You are going to place the signal near the blue pole. Click the More... button on the Placement palette.
    If that window isn't visible, use the Placement command on the Window menu.

    The Object selector window should appear.
  6. From the combo box, select "Track Objects" and then (left) click the "Control Signal - Normal" entry:

    Figure 3
    Fig. 3: The Object selector window showing the entry to click on.

    When ready, click the OK button.
  7. Enter "Place Object" mode by clicking its button on the Mode palette:

    Figure 4
    Fig. 4: The Mode palette in "Place Object" mode.
  8. The cursor becomes a white cross on the terrain. Position the cursor as shown, and click once to place the signal:

    Figure 5
    Fig. 5: Positioning the cursor on the track, just inside the blue line.
  9. Once you've clicked, the signal should appear in outline:

    Figure 6
    Fig. 6: Newly placed signal, in outline mode because it is selected.

    The signal should be facing off the end of the track. The red track marker should be pointing towards the blue pole.
  10. This signal needs to be here so the route doesn't freeze, but it isn't to be used by any trains, and so it should be buried.

    Because it's already selected, it's ready to be manipulated.

    You can use the down-arrow key on the number pad to lower it all the way into the ground.


    You can open its Properites window by pressing F6. Then enter "-9" for the "Y" coordinate:

    Figure 7
    Fig. 7: Signal's Properties window with changed "Y" coordinate.

    and then press OK.

    The red track marker will still be on the track but the signal itself should now be under the terrain.
  11. Now to save the changes you've made. You'll want to find a less-populated area to save in.

    Use the cursor keys and fly southeast (Heading 135 on the compass).

    When the Placement palette indicates "219 objects" it's then okay to save.

    Figure 8
    Fig. 8: Fewer objects here as shown on this window.

  12. Enter Select mode:

    Figure 9
    Fig. 9: The Mode palette in "Select Object" mode.

    and click the sky to de-select all objects.
    (The X, Y and Z values on the Object palette should then read all zeros.)
  13. Select Save from the Route menu, and answer Yes to the "Save object placement changes?" prompt.
    (Reply No to any other prompts.)
  14. Exit the Route Editor by closing the window (ALT+F4) or choosing Exit from the Route menu. Answer Yes when asked if you really want to exit, but No to any other prompts.